david the BBB does not [boot]

Does that mean you see no flashing lights at all? Or is it that you see the "heartbeat" pattern but the network interface does not show up on the host? Does /Volume/BELABOOT appear?

Sorry should have indicated that I have a steady and flashing blue lights on the Bela board (I have just tried again and it is the same). What is puzzling me is that the Bela Mini board comes up OK but the Bela BBB board does not. I am not familiar with /Volume/BELABOOT sorry.

    david I am not familiar with /Volume/BELABOOT sorry.

    If you open a finder window, on the left hand side you should see "Locations":

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    do you see BELABOOT there?

    Additionally, can you post the output you get running each of the following commands in the terminal after the board has booted for more than one minute?

    ls /dev/tty.*
    ifconfig
    system_profiler SPUSBDataType
    ioreg -p IOUSB -w0 -l

    Is there a program set to run on boot on the board?

    Yes there is a BELABOOT in the finder window

    There is a bootable program on the board which is working in stand-alone mode

    Here are the terminal outputs (rather long ..):

    dmh8@Davids-Air-10 ~ % ls /dev/tty.*
    /dev/tty.Bluetooth-Incoming-Port	/dev/tty.usbmodem__bela__6
    dmh8@Davids-Air-10 ~ % ifconfig
    lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
    	options=1203<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,TXSTATUS,SW_TIMESTAMP>
    	inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 
    	inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 
    	inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 
    	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
    gif0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
    stf0: flags=0<> mtu 1280
    en0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
    	options=400<CHANNEL_IO>
    	ether d0:81:7a:ac:9b:e0 
    	inet6 fe80::454:f321:d4a9:a347%en0 prefixlen 64 secured scopeid 0x4 
    	inet 192.168.8.106 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.8.255
    	inet6 fda8:e544:6171:4300:1806:6fe3:d011:14e1 prefixlen 64 autoconf secured 
    	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
    	media: autoselect
    	status: active
    en1: flags=8963<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
    	options=460<TSO4,TSO6,CHANNEL_IO>
    	ether 82:18:47:e5:fa:00 
    	media: autoselect <full-duplex>
    	status: inactive
    bridge0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
    	options=63<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,TSO4,TSO6>
    	ether 82:18:47:e5:fa:00 
    	Configuration:
    		id 0:0:0:0:0:0 priority 0 hellotime 0 fwddelay 0
    		maxage 0 holdcnt 0 proto stp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200
    		root id 0:0:0:0:0:0 priority 0 ifcost 0 port 0
    		ipfilter disabled flags 0x0
    	member: en1 flags=3<LEARNING,DISCOVER>
    	        ifmaxaddr 0 port 5 priority 0 path cost 0
    	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
    	media: <unknown type>
    	status: inactive
    p2p0: flags=8802<BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 2304
    	options=400<CHANNEL_IO>
    	ether 02:81:7a:ac:9b:e0 
    	media: autoselect
    	status: inactive
    awdl0: flags=8943<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1484
    	options=400<CHANNEL_IO>
    	ether be:2c:ed:4a:32:0d 
    	inet6 fe80::bc2c:edff:fe4a:320d%awdl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8 
    	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
    	media: autoselect
    	status: active
    llw0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
    	options=400<CHANNEL_IO>
    	ether be:2c:ed:4a:32:0d 
    	inet6 fe80::bc2c:edff:fe4a:320d%llw0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x9 
    	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
    	media: autoselect
    	status: active
    utun0: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1380
    	inet6 fe80::fb55:c84d:976d:844b%utun0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xa 
    	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
    utun1: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 2000
    	inet6 fe80::d6e:d5e6:78be:588b%utun1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xb 
    	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
    utun2: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1000
    	inet6 fe80::ce81:b1c:bd2c:69e%utun2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xc 
    	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
    utun3: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1400
    en9: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
    	options=404<VLAN_MTU,CHANNEL_IO>
    	ether be:1a:b7:ce:8e:3a 
    	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
    	media: autoselect (none)
    	status: inactive
    dmh8@Davids-Air-10 ~ % system_profiler SPUSBDataType
    2022-03-02 15:07:46.145 system_profiler[2739:77219] SPUSBDevice: IOCreatePlugInInterfaceForService failed 0xe00002be
    2022-03-02 15:07:46.146 system_profiler[2739:77219] SPUSBDevice: IOCreatePlugInInterfaceForService failed 0xe00002be
    USB:
    
        USB 3.0 Bus:
    
          Host Controller Driver: AppleUSBXHCIWPT
          PCI Device ID: 0x9cb1 
          PCI Revision ID: 0x0003 
          PCI Vendor ID: 0x8086 
    
            BRCM20702 Hub:
    
              Product ID: 0x4500
              Vendor ID: 0x0a5c  (Broadcom Corp.)
              Version: 1.00
              Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
              Location ID: 0x14300000
    
                Bluetooth USB Host Controller:
    
                  Product ID: 0x828f
                  Vendor ID: 0x05ac (Apple Inc.)
                  Version: 1.50
                  Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
                  Location ID: 0x14330000
    
            Bela:
    
              Product ID: 0x0104
              Vendor ID: 0x1d6b  (The Linux Foundation)
              Version: 1.01
              Serial Number: __bela__
              Speed: Up to 480 Mb/s
              Manufacturer: Augmented Instruments Ltd
              Location ID: 0x14100000 / 18
              Current Available (mA): 500
              Current Required (mA): 500
              Extra Operating Current (mA): 0
              Media:
                File-Stor Gadget:
                  Capacity: 70.6 MB (70,631,936 bytes)
                  Removable Media: Yes
                  BSD Name: disk2
                  Logical Unit: 0
                  Partition Map Type: Unknown
                  S.M.A.R.T. status: Verified
                  USB Interface: 4
    dmh8@Davids-Air-10 ~ % ioreg -p IOUSB -w0 -l
    +-o Root  <class IORegistryEntry, id 0x100000100, retain 17>
      | {
      |   "IOKitBuildVersion" = "Darwin Kernel Version 21.3.0: Wed Jan  5 21:37:58 PST 2022; root:xnu-8019.80.24~20/RELEASE_X86_64"
      |   "OS Build Version" = "21D62"
      |   "OSKernelCPUSubtype" = 3
      |   "OSKernelCPUType" = 16777223
      |   "OSPrelinkKextCount" = 18
      |   "IORegistryPlanes" = {"IOPower"="IOPower","IOService"="IOService","IO80211Plane"="IO80211Plane","IOUSB"="IOUSB","CoreCapture"="CoreCapture","IOACPIPlane"="IOACPIPlane","IODeviceTree"="IODeviceTree"}
      |   "IOConsoleLocked" = No
      |   "IOConsoleUsers" = ({"kCGSSessionOnConsoleKey"=Yes,"kCGSSessionLoginwindowSafeLogin"=No,"kSCSecuritySessionID"=100003,"kCGSessionLongUserNameKey"="David M Howard","kCGSSessionUserIDKey"=501,"kCGSSessionSystemSafeBoot"=No,"kCGSSessionUserNameKey"="dmh8","kCGSSessionIDKey"=257,"kCGSSessionGroupIDKey"=20,"kCGSessionLoginDoneKey"=Yes,"kCGSSessionAuditIDKey"=100003})
      |   "IOKitDiagnostics" = {"Instance allocation"=17308552,"Container allocation"=7099433,"Pageable 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        |   "iProduct" = 0
        |   "iSerialNumber" = 0
        |   "USB Product Name" = "AppleUSBXHCI Root Hub Simulation"
        |   "IOPowerManagement" = {"DevicePowerState"=0,"CurrentPowerState"=4,"CapabilityFlags"=32768,"MaxPowerState"=4,"DriverPowerState"=4}
        |   "IOUserClientClass" = "AppleUSBLegacyDeviceUserClient"
        |   "locationID" = 335544320
        |   "bDeviceSubClass" = 255
        |   "bcdUSB" = 256
        |   "non-removable" = "yes"
        |   "IOCFPlugInTypes" = {"9dc7b780-9ec0-11d4-a54f-000a27052861"="IOUSBFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/IOUSBLib.bundle"}
        |   "bDeviceProtocol" = 3
        |   "Device Speed" = 3
        |   "USB Vendor Name" = "Apple Inc."
        |   "idVendor" = 1452
        |   "IOClassNameOverride" = "IOUSBRootHubDevice"
        | }
        | 
        +-o BRCM20702 Hub@14300000  <class AppleUSBDevice, id 0x100000389, registered, matched, active, busy 0 (0 ms), retain 12>
        | | {
        | |   "sessionID" = 1794934537
        | |   "idProduct" = 17664
        | |   "iManufacturer" = 1
        | |   "bDeviceClass" = 9
        | |   "bMaxPacketSize0" = 8
        | |   "bcdDevice" = 256
        | |   "iProduct" = 2
        | |   "iSerialNumber" = 0
        | |   "bNumConfigurations" = 1
        | |   "Bus Power Available" = 250
        | |   "USB Address" = 3
        | |   "Built-In" = Yes
        | |   "locationID" = 338690048
        | |   "bDeviceSubClass" = 0
        | |   "bcdUSB" = 512
        | |   "USB Product Name" = "BRCM20702 Hub"
        | |   "PortNum" = 3
        | |   "non-removable" = "yes"
        | |   "AppleUSBAlternateServiceRegistryID" = 4294968199
        | |   "bDeviceProtocol" = 0
        | |   "IOCFPlugInTypes" = {"9dc7b780-9ec0-11d4-a54f-000a27052861"="IOUSBHostFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/IOUSBLib.bundle"}
        | |   "IOPowerManagement" = {"DevicePowerState"=2,"CurrentPowerState"=3,"CapabilityFlags"=65536,"MaxPowerState"=4,"DriverPowerState"=3}
        | |   "kUSBCurrentConfiguration" = 1
        | |   "Device Speed" = 1
        | |   "USB Vendor Name" = "Apple Inc."
        | |   "idVendor" = 2652
        | |   "IOGeneralInterest" = "IOCommand is not serializable"
        | |   "kUSBProductString" = "BRCM20702 Hub"
        | |   "kUSBVendorString" = "Apple Inc."
        | |   "IOClassNameOverride" = "IOUSBDevice"
        | | }
        | | 
        | +-o Bluetooth USB Host Controller@14330000  <class AppleUSBDevice, id 0x1000003af, registered, matched, active, busy 0 (1 ms), retain 18>
        |     {
        |       "sessionID" = 2136632231
        |       "idProduct" = 33423
        |       "iManufacturer" = 1
        |       "bDeviceClass" = 255
        |       "bMaxPacketSize0" = 64
        |       "bcdDevice" = 336
        |       "iProduct" = 2
        |       "iSerialNumber" = 0
        |       "bNumConfigurations" = 1
        |       "Bus Power Available" = 250
        |       "USB Address" = 6
        |       "Built-In" = Yes
        |       "locationID" = 338886656
        |       "bDeviceSubClass" = 1
        |       "bcdUSB" = 512
        |       "USB Product Name" = "Bluetooth USB Host Controller"
        |       "PortNum" = 3
        |       "non-removable" = "yes"
        |       "AppleUSBAlternateServiceRegistryID" = 4294968237
        |       "bDeviceProtocol" = 1
        |       "IOCFPlugInTypes" = {"9dc7b780-9ec0-11d4-a54f-000a27052861"="IOUSBHostFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/IOUSBLib.bundle"}
        |       "IOPowerManagement" = {"DevicePowerState"=2,"CurrentPowerState"=3,"CapabilityFlags"=65536,"MaxPowerState"=4,"DriverPowerState"=3}
        |       "kUSBCurrentConfiguration" = 1
        |       "Device Speed" = 1
        |       "USB Vendor Name" = "Apple Inc."
        |       "idVendor" = 1452
        |       "IOGeneralInterest" = "IOCommand is not serializable"
        |       "kUSBProductString" = "Bluetooth USB Host Controller"
        |       "kUSBVendorString" = "Apple Inc."
        |       "IOClassNameOverride" = "IOUSBDevice"
        |     }
        |     
        +-o Bela@14100000  <class AppleUSBDevice, id 0x1000013a1, registered, matched, active, busy 0 (4 ms), retain 28>
            {
              "sessionID" = 9474465803965
              "idProduct" = 260
              "iManufacturer" = 1
              "bDeviceClass" = 0
              "bMaxPacketSize0" = 64
              "bcdDevice" = 257
              "iProduct" = 2
              "iSerialNumber" = 3
              "bNumConfigurations" = 1
              "Bus Power Available" = 250
              "USB Address" = 18
              "Built-In" = No
              "locationID" = 336592896
              "bDeviceSubClass" = 0
              "bcdUSB" = 512
              "USB Product Name" = "Bela"
              "PortNum" = 1
              "non-removable" = "no"
              "kUSBSerialNumberString" = "__bela__"
              "bDeviceProtocol" = 0
              "AppleUSBAlternateServiceRegistryID" = 4294972319
              "IOCFPlugInTypes" = {"9dc7b780-9ec0-11d4-a54f-000a27052861"="IOUSBHostFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/IOUSBLib.bundle"}
              "IOPowerManagement" = {"DevicePowerState"=0,"CurrentPowerState"=3,"CapabilityFlags"=65536,"MaxPowerState"=4,"DriverPowerState"=3}
              "Device Speed" = 2
              "USB Vendor Name" = "Augmented Instruments Ltd"
              "idVendor" = 7531
              "kUSBCurrentConfiguration" = 1
              "IOGeneralInterest" = "IOCommand is not serializable"
              "kUSBProductString" = "Bela"
              "USB Serial Number" = "__bela__"
              "kUSBVendorString" = "Augmented Instruments Ltd"
              "IOClassNameOverride" = "IOUSBDevice"
            }

    right, so everything is recognised as expected, the issue is probably that the IDE doesn't have CPU time left to show up while the program is running at boot (or better, it will take much longer for it to be ready). See instructions here on how to regain control of the board in this situation:

    https://learn.bela.io/using-bela/about-bela/troubleshooting-guide/#program-running-at-boot-and-board-not-showing-up

      19 days later

      Hi again - same issue and I am spending too much time trying(!). I have had times when Bela has connected and thought all was OK but today I cannot get any success (am on my MacBook Air Monterey 12.2.1 which has been my only machine for Bela work). Have tried Firefox and Chrome and with bela.local/ I get the same result (and I confess I do not know what to check apart from the connection) as follows:

      This site can’t be reached
      bela.local’s server IP address could not be found.
      Try:

      Checking the connection
      Checking the proxy, firewall and DNS configuration
      ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED

        Hi again. Should have mentioned - same error with Bela Mini.

        Sorry should have indicated that it simply worked at some point without recourse to this. Since writing the post I found a pc I could try and it worked fine. It makes me suspicious of the Mac - I get the impression that PCs are more robust with Bela perhaps?

          david and I am spending too much time trying(

          I know right!

          david I get the impression that PCs are more robust with Bela perhaps?

          Not that I am aware of...

          david Sorry should have indicated that it simply worked at some point without recourse to this.

          Is there still a program running on boot? If yes, I strongly recommend you follow the instructions above.

          When you get the BELABOOT drive on your mac, can you open it and oepn the file "bela.version" with textedit? What is the version number reported in there?

          Today it is not working on either computer so I looked at those instructions - my Bela is incorporated in a case with a number of connectors. A number of pins are mentioned to be grounded but I do not see them listed on the pin diagram (https://learn.bela.io/pin-diagram/). Where is the BELABOOT drive?

            I have just tried with a brand new Bela board out of the box and it give the same error
            'This site can’t be reached
            bela.local’s server IP address could not be found.'

            Does this still suggest I need to go through the process above?

              david I have just tried with a brand new Bela board out of the box

              good try!

              david Does this still suggest I need to go through the process above?

              First we need to figure out whether you are running a version of the Bela image that is compatible with your very new OS. That information is in bela.version in BELABOOT.

              david Where is the BELABOOT drive?

              It should show up on your desktop or inside the /Volumes folder. You can see the content of bela.version after the board is connected to your computer by running:

              cat /Volumes/BELABOOT/bela.version

              in the terminal.

              OK tried this and it returned:

              dmh8@Davids-Air-10 ~ % cat /Volumes/BELABOOT/bela.version
              BELA_IMAGE_VERSION=""
              dmh8@Davids-Air-10 ~ %

              Not sure what to make of that!

              Right, that's an old version so I think you need a newer image than the one you currently have in order to support Monterey.

              Just to confirm this is the case, could you please show the output of running ifconfig on your terminal?

              This is what I got:

              dmh8@Davids-Air-10 ~ %
              dmh8@Davids-Air-10 ~ % ifconfig
              lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
              options=1203<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,TXSTATUS,SW_TIMESTAMP>
              inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
              inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
              inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
              nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
              gif0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
              stf0: flags=0<> mtu 1280
              en0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
              options=400<CHANNEL_IO>
              ether d0:81:7a:ac:9b:e0
              inet6 fe80::18e9:45e4:1756:9f5b%en0 prefixlen 64 secured scopeid 0x4
              inet 192.168.8.106 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.8.255
              inet6 fda8:e544:6171:4300:1806:6fe3:d011:14e1 prefixlen 64 autoconf secured
              nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
              media: autoselect
              status: active
              en1: flags=8963<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
              options=460<TSO4,TSO6,CHANNEL_IO>
              ether 82:18:47:e5:fa:00
              media: autoselect <full-duplex>
              status: inactive
              bridge0: flags=8822<BROADCAST,SMART,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
              options=63<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,TSO4,TSO6>
              ether 82:18:47:e5:fa:00
              Configuration:
              id 0:0:0:0:0:0 priority 0 hellotime 0 fwddelay 0
              maxage 0 holdcnt 0 proto stp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200
              root id 0:0:0:0:0:0 priority 0 ifcost 0 port 0
              ipfilter disabled flags 0x0
              member: en1 flags=3<LEARNING,DISCOVER>
              ifmaxaddr 0 port 5 priority 0 path cost 0
              media: <unknown type>
              status: inactive
              p2p0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 2304
              options=400<CHANNEL_IO>
              ether 02:81:7a:ac:9b:e0
              media: autoselect
              status: inactive
              awdl0: flags=8943<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1484
              options=400<CHANNEL_IO>
              ether ea:54:0d:0f:1b:34
              inet6 fe80::e854:dff:fe0f:1b34%awdl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8
              nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
              media: autoselect
              status: active
              llw0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
              options=400<CHANNEL_IO>
              ether ea:54:0d:0f:1b:34
              inet6 fe80::e854:dff:fe0f:1b34%llw0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x9
              nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
              media: autoselect
              status: active
              utun0: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1380
              inet6 fe80::f6c0:1246:8e03:2edd%utun0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xa
              nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
              utun1: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 2000
              inet6 fe80::10af:d46d:1a97:c522%utun1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xb
              nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
              utun2: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1000
              inet6 fe80::ce81:b1c:bd2c:69e%utun2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xc
              nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
              utun3: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1400
              en9: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
              options=404<VLAN_MTU,CHANNEL_IO>
              ether be:1a:b7:96:bd:1c
              nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
              media: autoselect (none)
              status: inactive
              dmh8@Davids-Air-10 ~ %

              Let's get in touch via email and organise a zoom session like the one from 2 years ago so we can solve this more readily

              OK that sounds good. Would anytime on Monday work?

              2 years later

              Hi again. My last login issue simply resolved itself(!) and I am up and running again. Question: I work in Pd and have 64 oscillators working OK but when I try 72 it makes odd sounds (not sinewaves) on its own. Could this be asking too much for real-time operation?