david Hi. Today I have the opposite issue - the MINI does boot but the BBB does not. I have tried rebooting the Mac, going to http://bela.local (which works for the MINI), and 192.168.6.2 or 192.168.7.2 a number of times with no success. Am I forgetting something?

    david the BBB does not [boot]

    Does that mean you see no flashing lights at all? Or is it that you see the "heartbeat" pattern but the network interface does not show up on the host? Does /Volume/BELABOOT appear?

    Sorry should have indicated that I have a steady and flashing blue lights on the Bela board (I have just tried again and it is the same). What is puzzling me is that the Bela Mini board comes up OK but the Bela BBB board does not. I am not familiar with /Volume/BELABOOT sorry.

      david I am not familiar with /Volume/BELABOOT sorry.

      If you open a finder window, on the left hand side you should see "Locations":

      alt text

      do you see BELABOOT there?

      Additionally, can you post the output you get running each of the following commands in the terminal after the board has booted for more than one minute?

      ls /dev/tty.*
      ifconfig
      system_profiler SPUSBDataType
      ioreg -p IOUSB -w0 -l

      Is there a program set to run on boot on the board?

      Yes there is a BELABOOT in the finder window

      There is a bootable program on the board which is working in stand-alone mode

      Here are the terminal outputs (rather long ..):

      dmh8@Davids-Air-10 ~ % ls /dev/tty.*
      /dev/tty.Bluetooth-Incoming-Port	/dev/tty.usbmodem__bela__6
      dmh8@Davids-Air-10 ~ % ifconfig
      lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
      	options=1203<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,TXSTATUS,SW_TIMESTAMP>
      	inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 
      	inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 
      	inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 
      	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
      gif0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
      stf0: flags=0<> mtu 1280
      en0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
      	options=400<CHANNEL_IO>
      	ether d0:81:7a:ac:9b:e0 
      	inet6 fe80::454:f321:d4a9:a347%en0 prefixlen 64 secured scopeid 0x4 
      	inet 192.168.8.106 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.8.255
      	inet6 fda8:e544:6171:4300:1806:6fe3:d011:14e1 prefixlen 64 autoconf secured 
      	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
      	media: autoselect
      	status: active
      en1: flags=8963<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
      	options=460<TSO4,TSO6,CHANNEL_IO>
      	ether 82:18:47:e5:fa:00 
      	media: autoselect <full-duplex>
      	status: inactive
      bridge0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
      	options=63<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,TSO4,TSO6>
      	ether 82:18:47:e5:fa:00 
      	Configuration:
      		id 0:0:0:0:0:0 priority 0 hellotime 0 fwddelay 0
      		maxage 0 holdcnt 0 proto stp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200
      		root id 0:0:0:0:0:0 priority 0 ifcost 0 port 0
      		ipfilter disabled flags 0x0
      	member: en1 flags=3<LEARNING,DISCOVER>
      	        ifmaxaddr 0 port 5 priority 0 path cost 0
      	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
      	media: <unknown type>
      	status: inactive
      p2p0: flags=8802<BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 2304
      	options=400<CHANNEL_IO>
      	ether 02:81:7a:ac:9b:e0 
      	media: autoselect
      	status: inactive
      awdl0: flags=8943<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1484
      	options=400<CHANNEL_IO>
      	ether be:2c:ed:4a:32:0d 
      	inet6 fe80::bc2c:edff:fe4a:320d%awdl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8 
      	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
      	media: autoselect
      	status: active
      llw0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
      	options=400<CHANNEL_IO>
      	ether be:2c:ed:4a:32:0d 
      	inet6 fe80::bc2c:edff:fe4a:320d%llw0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x9 
      	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
      	media: autoselect
      	status: active
      utun0: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1380
      	inet6 fe80::fb55:c84d:976d:844b%utun0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xa 
      	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
      utun1: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 2000
      	inet6 fe80::d6e:d5e6:78be:588b%utun1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xb 
      	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
      utun2: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1000
      	inet6 fe80::ce81:b1c:bd2c:69e%utun2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xc 
      	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
      utun3: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1400
      en9: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
      	options=404<VLAN_MTU,CHANNEL_IO>
      	ether be:1a:b7:ce:8e:3a 
      	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
      	media: autoselect (none)
      	status: inactive
      dmh8@Davids-Air-10 ~ % system_profiler SPUSBDataType
      2022-03-02 15:07:46.145 system_profiler[2739:77219] SPUSBDevice: IOCreatePlugInInterfaceForService failed 0xe00002be
      2022-03-02 15:07:46.146 system_profiler[2739:77219] SPUSBDevice: IOCreatePlugInInterfaceForService failed 0xe00002be
      USB:
      
          USB 3.0 Bus:
      
            Host Controller Driver: AppleUSBXHCIWPT
            PCI Device ID: 0x9cb1 
            PCI Revision ID: 0x0003 
            PCI Vendor ID: 0x8086 
      
              BRCM20702 Hub:
      
                Product ID: 0x4500
                Vendor ID: 0x0a5c  (Broadcom Corp.)
                Version: 1.00
                Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
                Location ID: 0x14300000
      
                  Bluetooth USB Host Controller:
      
                    Product ID: 0x828f
                    Vendor ID: 0x05ac (Apple Inc.)
                    Version: 1.50
                    Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
                    Location ID: 0x14330000
      
              Bela:
      
                Product ID: 0x0104
                Vendor ID: 0x1d6b  (The Linux Foundation)
                Version: 1.01
                Serial Number: __bela__
                Speed: Up to 480 Mb/s
                Manufacturer: Augmented Instruments Ltd
                Location ID: 0x14100000 / 18
                Current Available (mA): 500
                Current Required (mA): 500
                Extra Operating Current (mA): 0
                Media:
                  File-Stor Gadget:
                    Capacity: 70.6 MB (70,631,936 bytes)
                    Removable Media: Yes
                    BSD Name: disk2
                    Logical Unit: 0
                    Partition Map Type: Unknown
                    S.M.A.R.T. status: Verified
                    USB Interface: 4
      dmh8@Davids-Air-10 ~ % ioreg -p IOUSB -w0 -l
      +-o Root  <class IORegistryEntry, id 0x100000100, retain 17>
        | {
        |   "IOKitBuildVersion" = "Darwin Kernel Version 21.3.0: Wed Jan  5 21:37:58 PST 2022; root:xnu-8019.80.24~20/RELEASE_X86_64"
        |   "OS Build Version" = "21D62"
        |   "OSKernelCPUSubtype" = 3
        |   "OSKernelCPUType" = 16777223
        |   "OSPrelinkKextCount" = 18
        |   "IORegistryPlanes" = {"IOPower"="IOPower","IOService"="IOService","IO80211Plane"="IO80211Plane","IOUSB"="IOUSB","CoreCapture"="CoreCapture","IOACPIPlane"="IOACPIPlane","IODeviceTree"="IODeviceTree"}
        |   "IOConsoleLocked" = No
        |   "IOConsoleUsers" = ({"kCGSSessionOnConsoleKey"=Yes,"kCGSSessionLoginwindowSafeLogin"=No,"kSCSecuritySessionID"=100003,"kCGSessionLongUserNameKey"="David M Howard","kCGSSessionUserIDKey"=501,"kCGSSessionSystemSafeBoot"=No,"kCGSSessionUserNameKey"="dmh8","kCGSSessionIDKey"=257,"kCGSSessionGroupIDKey"=20,"kCGSessionLoginDoneKey"=Yes,"kCGSSessionAuditIDKey"=100003})
        |   "IOKitDiagnostics" = {"Instance allocation"=17308552,"Container allocation"=7099433,"Pageable 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          |   "iSerialNumber" = 0
          |   "USB Product Name" = "AppleUSBXHCI Root Hub Simulation"
          |   "IOPowerManagement" = {"DevicePowerState"=0,"CurrentPowerState"=4,"CapabilityFlags"=32768,"MaxPowerState"=4,"DriverPowerState"=4}
          |   "IOUserClientClass" = "AppleUSBLegacyDeviceUserClient"
          |   "locationID" = 335544320
          |   "bDeviceSubClass" = 255
          |   "bcdUSB" = 256
          |   "non-removable" = "yes"
          |   "IOCFPlugInTypes" = {"9dc7b780-9ec0-11d4-a54f-000a27052861"="IOUSBFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/IOUSBLib.bundle"}
          |   "bDeviceProtocol" = 3
          |   "Device Speed" = 3
          |   "USB Vendor Name" = "Apple Inc."
          |   "idVendor" = 1452
          |   "IOClassNameOverride" = "IOUSBRootHubDevice"
          | }
          | 
          +-o BRCM20702 Hub@14300000  <class AppleUSBDevice, id 0x100000389, registered, matched, active, busy 0 (0 ms), retain 12>
          | | {
          | |   "sessionID" = 1794934537
          | |   "idProduct" = 17664
          | |   "iManufacturer" = 1
          | |   "bDeviceClass" = 9
          | |   "bMaxPacketSize0" = 8
          | |   "bcdDevice" = 256
          | |   "iProduct" = 2
          | |   "iSerialNumber" = 0
          | |   "bNumConfigurations" = 1
          | |   "Bus Power Available" = 250
          | |   "USB Address" = 3
          | |   "Built-In" = Yes
          | |   "locationID" = 338690048
          | |   "bDeviceSubClass" = 0
          | |   "bcdUSB" = 512
          | |   "USB Product Name" = "BRCM20702 Hub"
          | |   "PortNum" = 3
          | |   "non-removable" = "yes"
          | |   "AppleUSBAlternateServiceRegistryID" = 4294968199
          | |   "bDeviceProtocol" = 0
          | |   "IOCFPlugInTypes" = {"9dc7b780-9ec0-11d4-a54f-000a27052861"="IOUSBHostFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/IOUSBLib.bundle"}
          | |   "IOPowerManagement" = {"DevicePowerState"=2,"CurrentPowerState"=3,"CapabilityFlags"=65536,"MaxPowerState"=4,"DriverPowerState"=3}
          | |   "kUSBCurrentConfiguration" = 1
          | |   "Device Speed" = 1
          | |   "USB Vendor Name" = "Apple Inc."
          | |   "idVendor" = 2652
          | |   "IOGeneralInterest" = "IOCommand is not serializable"
          | |   "kUSBProductString" = "BRCM20702 Hub"
          | |   "kUSBVendorString" = "Apple Inc."
          | |   "IOClassNameOverride" = "IOUSBDevice"
          | | }
          | | 
          | +-o Bluetooth USB Host Controller@14330000  <class AppleUSBDevice, id 0x1000003af, registered, matched, active, busy 0 (1 ms), retain 18>
          |     {
          |       "sessionID" = 2136632231
          |       "idProduct" = 33423
          |       "iManufacturer" = 1
          |       "bDeviceClass" = 255
          |       "bMaxPacketSize0" = 64
          |       "bcdDevice" = 336
          |       "iProduct" = 2
          |       "iSerialNumber" = 0
          |       "bNumConfigurations" = 1
          |       "Bus Power Available" = 250
          |       "USB Address" = 6
          |       "Built-In" = Yes
          |       "locationID" = 338886656
          |       "bDeviceSubClass" = 1
          |       "bcdUSB" = 512
          |       "USB Product Name" = "Bluetooth USB Host Controller"
          |       "PortNum" = 3
          |       "non-removable" = "yes"
          |       "AppleUSBAlternateServiceRegistryID" = 4294968237
          |       "bDeviceProtocol" = 1
          |       "IOCFPlugInTypes" = {"9dc7b780-9ec0-11d4-a54f-000a27052861"="IOUSBHostFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/IOUSBLib.bundle"}
          |       "IOPowerManagement" = {"DevicePowerState"=2,"CurrentPowerState"=3,"CapabilityFlags"=65536,"MaxPowerState"=4,"DriverPowerState"=3}
          |       "kUSBCurrentConfiguration" = 1
          |       "Device Speed" = 1
          |       "USB Vendor Name" = "Apple Inc."
          |       "idVendor" = 1452
          |       "IOGeneralInterest" = "IOCommand is not serializable"
          |       "kUSBProductString" = "Bluetooth USB Host Controller"
          |       "kUSBVendorString" = "Apple Inc."
          |       "IOClassNameOverride" = "IOUSBDevice"
          |     }
          |     
          +-o Bela@14100000  <class AppleUSBDevice, id 0x1000013a1, registered, matched, active, busy 0 (4 ms), retain 28>
              {
                "sessionID" = 9474465803965
                "idProduct" = 260
                "iManufacturer" = 1
                "bDeviceClass" = 0
                "bMaxPacketSize0" = 64
                "bcdDevice" = 257
                "iProduct" = 2
                "iSerialNumber" = 3
                "bNumConfigurations" = 1
                "Bus Power Available" = 250
                "USB Address" = 18
                "Built-In" = No
                "locationID" = 336592896
                "bDeviceSubClass" = 0
                "bcdUSB" = 512
                "USB Product Name" = "Bela"
                "PortNum" = 1
                "non-removable" = "no"
                "kUSBSerialNumberString" = "__bela__"
                "bDeviceProtocol" = 0
                "AppleUSBAlternateServiceRegistryID" = 4294972319
                "IOCFPlugInTypes" = {"9dc7b780-9ec0-11d4-a54f-000a27052861"="IOUSBHostFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/IOUSBLib.bundle"}
                "IOPowerManagement" = {"DevicePowerState"=0,"CurrentPowerState"=3,"CapabilityFlags"=65536,"MaxPowerState"=4,"DriverPowerState"=3}
                "Device Speed" = 2
                "USB Vendor Name" = "Augmented Instruments Ltd"
                "idVendor" = 7531
                "kUSBCurrentConfiguration" = 1
                "IOGeneralInterest" = "IOCommand is not serializable"
                "kUSBProductString" = "Bela"
                "USB Serial Number" = "__bela__"
                "kUSBVendorString" = "Augmented Instruments Ltd"
                "IOClassNameOverride" = "IOUSBDevice"
              }

      right, so everything is recognised as expected, the issue is probably that the IDE doesn't have CPU time left to show up while the program is running at boot (or better, it will take much longer for it to be ready). See instructions here on how to regain control of the board in this situation:

      https://learn.bela.io/using-bela/about-bela/troubleshooting-guide/#program-running-at-boot-and-board-not-showing-up

        19 days later

        Hi again - same issue and I am spending too much time trying(!). I have had times when Bela has connected and thought all was OK but today I cannot get any success (am on my MacBook Air Monterey 12.2.1 which has been my only machine for Bela work). Have tried Firefox and Chrome and with bela.local/ I get the same result (and I confess I do not know what to check apart from the connection) as follows:

        This site can’t be reached
        bela.local’s server IP address could not be found.
        Try:

        Checking the connection
        Checking the proxy, firewall and DNS configuration
        ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED

          Hi again. Should have mentioned - same error with Bela Mini.

          Sorry should have indicated that it simply worked at some point without recourse to this. Since writing the post I found a pc I could try and it worked fine. It makes me suspicious of the Mac - I get the impression that PCs are more robust with Bela perhaps?

            david and I am spending too much time trying(

            I know right!

            david I get the impression that PCs are more robust with Bela perhaps?

            Not that I am aware of...

            david Sorry should have indicated that it simply worked at some point without recourse to this.

            Is there still a program running on boot? If yes, I strongly recommend you follow the instructions above.

            When you get the BELABOOT drive on your mac, can you open it and oepn the file "bela.version" with textedit? What is the version number reported in there?

            Today it is not working on either computer so I looked at those instructions - my Bela is incorporated in a case with a number of connectors. A number of pins are mentioned to be grounded but I do not see them listed on the pin diagram (https://learn.bela.io/pin-diagram/). Where is the BELABOOT drive?

              I have just tried with a brand new Bela board out of the box and it give the same error
              'This site can’t be reached
              bela.local’s server IP address could not be found.'

              Does this still suggest I need to go through the process above?

                david I have just tried with a brand new Bela board out of the box

                good try!

                david Does this still suggest I need to go through the process above?

                First we need to figure out whether you are running a version of the Bela image that is compatible with your very new OS. That information is in bela.version in BELABOOT.

                david Where is the BELABOOT drive?

                It should show up on your desktop or inside the /Volumes folder. You can see the content of bela.version after the board is connected to your computer by running:

                cat /Volumes/BELABOOT/bela.version

                in the terminal.

                OK tried this and it returned:

                dmh8@Davids-Air-10 ~ % cat /Volumes/BELABOOT/bela.version
                BELA_IMAGE_VERSION=""
                dmh8@Davids-Air-10 ~ %

                Not sure what to make of that!

                Right, that's an old version so I think you need a newer image than the one you currently have in order to support Monterey.

                Just to confirm this is the case, could you please show the output of running ifconfig on your terminal?

                This is what I got:

                dmh8@Davids-Air-10 ~ %
                dmh8@Davids-Air-10 ~ % ifconfig
                lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
                options=1203<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,TXSTATUS,SW_TIMESTAMP>
                inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
                inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
                inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
                nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
                gif0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
                stf0: flags=0<> mtu 1280
                en0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
                options=400<CHANNEL_IO>
                ether d0:81:7a:ac:9b:e0
                inet6 fe80::18e9:45e4:1756:9f5b%en0 prefixlen 64 secured scopeid 0x4
                inet 192.168.8.106 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.8.255
                inet6 fda8:e544:6171:4300:1806:6fe3:d011:14e1 prefixlen 64 autoconf secured
                nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
                media: autoselect
                status: active
                en1: flags=8963<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
                options=460<TSO4,TSO6,CHANNEL_IO>
                ether 82:18:47:e5:fa:00
                media: autoselect <full-duplex>
                status: inactive
                bridge0: flags=8822<BROADCAST,SMART,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
                options=63<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,TSO4,TSO6>
                ether 82:18:47:e5:fa:00
                Configuration:
                id 0:0:0:0:0:0 priority 0 hellotime 0 fwddelay 0
                maxage 0 holdcnt 0 proto stp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200
                root id 0:0:0:0:0:0 priority 0 ifcost 0 port 0
                ipfilter disabled flags 0x0
                member: en1 flags=3<LEARNING,DISCOVER>
                ifmaxaddr 0 port 5 priority 0 path cost 0
                media: <unknown type>
                status: inactive
                p2p0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 2304
                options=400<CHANNEL_IO>
                ether 02:81:7a:ac:9b:e0
                media: autoselect
                status: inactive
                awdl0: flags=8943<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1484
                options=400<CHANNEL_IO>
                ether ea:54:0d:0f:1b:34
                inet6 fe80::e854:dff:fe0f:1b34%awdl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8
                nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
                media: autoselect
                status: active
                llw0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
                options=400<CHANNEL_IO>
                ether ea:54:0d:0f:1b:34
                inet6 fe80::e854:dff:fe0f:1b34%llw0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x9
                nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
                media: autoselect
                status: active
                utun0: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1380
                inet6 fe80::f6c0:1246:8e03:2edd%utun0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xa
                nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
                utun1: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 2000
                inet6 fe80::10af:d46d:1a97:c522%utun1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xb
                nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
                utun2: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1000
                inet6 fe80::ce81:b1c:bd2c:69e%utun2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xc
                nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
                utun3: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1400
                en9: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
                options=404<VLAN_MTU,CHANNEL_IO>
                ether be:1a:b7:96:bd:1c
                nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
                media: autoselect (none)
                status: inactive
                dmh8@Davids-Air-10 ~ %

                Let's get in touch via email and organise a zoom session like the one from 2 years ago so we can solve this more readily

                OK that sounds good. Would anytime on Monday work?