Updating Bela ide failed

Ddavid · Nov 17, 2020

I have started working on Andrew's videos and number 1 says to update the ide (17 Nov 2020). I followed the instructions, downloaded the core software and did the 'Update Bela'. Now the ide is empty and shows a window with 'ERROR Can't open binary files'. I note a comment about the version of the software on the board being older than 0.3.7 but I have no idea how to find this out.

I am on a MacBook Air on Catalina 10.15.7 and have run Bela a lot in the past successfully. I am now stuck and cannot see how to move on ... Thanks in advance for any help.

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giuliomoro · Nov 17, 2020

david I followed the instructions, downloaded the core software and did the 'Update Bela'

was the update successful? Or did you get any error?

david Now the IDE is empty and shows a window with 'ERROR Can't open binary files'.

It seems that you dropped the zip file in there and it is now a file in your project. You can delete it.

Assuming the update was successful, you'd have to refresh the page at least once after the update in order to be able to drag-and-drop a zip file and have it interpreted as a project.

To see the version of your board you can run grep v0 in the console at the bottom of the IDE.

Ddavid · Nov 18, 2020

Hi - I have just tried the update again with the same result. I set it up with the zip file and it ran many scripts and then ended with the page above again. So I get this error. Is this the point I refresh the page - I tried with the Chrome refresh and it comes back to this page. I cannot find a way to get out of this error page in Bela. I do the update with a Bela starter board connected - might that be the issue? On this error page there is no console available as far as I can see. Is the error 'can't open binary files' meaning that I should have some other files available?

giuliomoro · Nov 18, 2020

david . I set it up with the zip file and it ran many script

Did this process end successfully? Iff you run this again, send a screenshot of what that looks like when it ends.

david I do the update with a Bela starter board connected - might that be the issue

That's fine: you are supposed to do the update with a board connected.

david . I cannot find a way to get out of this error page in Bela

Press cancel then open the side tab by clicking on the + sign. There you'll see a list of the files in the project. Delete sine-generator.zip.

Then you can drop the zip archive on the window again and it should prompt you to open it as a project.

Ddavid · Nov 18, 2020

OK - something changed - I pressed the compile button a few times and it started to compete the sin wave demo which was the last program I had been using and it then ran OK. So somehow it seems to have sorted itself out I think - thanks for you time.

Ddavid · Jan 16, 2022

Hi after a long gap! I have a Bela Mini and I cannot get the bela/local to work on my MacBook Air. It works fine with the larger Bela board. Should it simply recognise a different board and run? The Bela Mini does have the 'heartbeat' flashing of its blue LED.

giuliomoro · Jan 17, 2022

It should just work. Did you change any of the network settings for this device in the System Preferences->Network panel? What version of the operating system are you on?

Ddavid · Jan 22, 2022

o/s is Monterey 12.1 on a Macbook Air. It still is no coming up.

Ddavid · Jan 22, 2022

Tried a Beast and it works. Is there something different one has to do for the Mini?

giuliomoro · Jan 22, 2022

david I have a Bela Mini

when from? You'll need an image more recent than 20/June/2020 for it to work on macos > 10.15. If you have an old image on your BelaMini, you may need to flash a new one from here https://github.com/BelaPlatform/bela-image-builder/releases/tag/v0.3.8f

Ddavid · Mar 2, 2022

david Hi. Today I have the opposite issue - the MINI does boot but the BBB does not. I have tried rebooting the Mac, going to http://bela.local (which works for the MINI), and 192.168.6.2 or 192.168.7.2 a number of times with no success. Am I forgetting something?

giuliomoro · Mar 2, 2022

david the BBB does not [boot]

Does that mean you see no flashing lights at all? Or is it that you see the "heartbeat" pattern but the network interface does not show up on the host? Does /Volume/BELABOOT appear?

Ddavid · Mar 2, 2022

Sorry should have indicated that I have a steady and flashing blue lights on the Bela board (I have just tried again and it is the same). What is puzzling me is that the Bela Mini board comes up OK but the Bela BBB board does not. I am not familiar with /Volume/BELABOOT sorry.

giuliomoro · Mar 2, 2022

david I am not familiar with /Volume/BELABOOT sorry.

If you open a finder window, on the left hand side you should see "Locations":

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do you see BELABOOT there?

Additionally, can you post the output you get running each of the following commands in the terminal after the board has booted for more than one minute?

ls /dev/tty.*

ifconfig

system_profiler SPUSBDataType

ioreg -p IOUSB -w0 -l

Is there a program set to run on boot on the board?

Ddavid · Mar 2, 2022

Yes there is a BELABOOT in the finder window

There is a bootable program on the board which is working in stand-alone mode

Here are the terminal outputs (rather long ..):

dmh8@Davids-Air-10 ~ % ls /dev/tty.*
/dev/tty.Bluetooth-Incoming-Port	/dev/tty.usbmodem__bela__6
dmh8@Davids-Air-10 ~ % ifconfig
lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
	options=1203<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,TXSTATUS,SW_TIMESTAMP>
	inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 
	inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 
	inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 
	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
gif0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
stf0: flags=0<> mtu 1280
en0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
	options=400<CHANNEL_IO>
	ether d0:81:7a:ac:9b:e0 
	inet6 fe80::454:f321:d4a9:a347%en0 prefixlen 64 secured scopeid 0x4 
	inet 192.168.8.106 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.8.255
	inet6 fda8:e544:6171:4300:1806:6fe3:d011:14e1 prefixlen 64 autoconf secured 
	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
	media: autoselect
	status: active
en1: flags=8963<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
	options=460<TSO4,TSO6,CHANNEL_IO>
	ether 82:18:47:e5:fa:00 
	media: autoselect <full-duplex>
	status: inactive
bridge0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
	options=63<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,TSO4,TSO6>
	ether 82:18:47:e5:fa:00 
	Configuration:
		id 0:0:0:0:0:0 priority 0 hellotime 0 fwddelay 0
		maxage 0 holdcnt 0 proto stp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200
		root id 0:0:0:0:0:0 priority 0 ifcost 0 port 0
		ipfilter disabled flags 0x0
	member: en1 flags=3<LEARNING,DISCOVER>
	        ifmaxaddr 0 port 5 priority 0 path cost 0
	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
	media: <unknown type>
	status: inactive
p2p0: flags=8802<BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 2304
	options=400<CHANNEL_IO>
	ether 02:81:7a:ac:9b:e0 
	media: autoselect
	status: inactive
awdl0: flags=8943<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1484
	options=400<CHANNEL_IO>
	ether be:2c:ed:4a:32:0d 
	inet6 fe80::bc2c:edff:fe4a:320d%awdl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8 
	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
	media: autoselect
	status: active
llw0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
	options=400<CHANNEL_IO>
	ether be:2c:ed:4a:32:0d 
	inet6 fe80::bc2c:edff:fe4a:320d%llw0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x9 
	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
	media: autoselect
	status: active
utun0: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1380
	inet6 fe80::fb55:c84d:976d:844b%utun0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xa 
	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
utun1: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 2000
	inet6 fe80::d6e:d5e6:78be:588b%utun1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xb 
	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
utun2: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1000
	inet6 fe80::ce81:b1c:bd2c:69e%utun2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xc 
	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
utun3: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1400
en9: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
	options=404<VLAN_MTU,CHANNEL_IO>
	ether be:1a:b7:ce:8e:3a 
	nd6 options=201<PERFORMNUD,DAD>
	media: autoselect (none)
	status: inactive

dmh8@Davids-Air-10 ~ % system_profiler SPUSBDataType
2022-03-02 15:07:46.145 system_profiler[2739:77219] SPUSBDevice: IOCreatePlugInInterfaceForService failed 0xe00002be
2022-03-02 15:07:46.146 system_profiler[2739:77219] SPUSBDevice: IOCreatePlugInInterfaceForService failed 0xe00002be
USB:

    USB 3.0 Bus:

      Host Controller Driver: AppleUSBXHCIWPT
      PCI Device ID: 0x9cb1 
      PCI Revision ID: 0x0003 
      PCI Vendor ID: 0x8086 

        BRCM20702 Hub:

          Product ID: 0x4500
          Vendor ID: 0x0a5c  (Broadcom Corp.)
          Version: 1.00
          Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
          Location ID: 0x14300000

            Bluetooth USB Host Controller:

              Product ID: 0x828f
              Vendor ID: 0x05ac (Apple Inc.)
              Version: 1.50
              Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
              Location ID: 0x14330000

        Bela:

          Product ID: 0x0104
          Vendor ID: 0x1d6b  (The Linux Foundation)
          Version: 1.01
          Serial Number: __bela__
          Speed: Up to 480 Mb/s
          Manufacturer: Augmented Instruments Ltd
          Location ID: 0x14100000 / 18
          Current Available (mA): 500
          Current Required (mA): 500
          Extra Operating Current (mA): 0
          Media:
            File-Stor Gadget:
              Capacity: 70.6 MB (70,631,936 bytes)
              Removable Media: Yes
              BSD Name: disk2
              Logical Unit: 0
              Partition Map Type: Unknown
              S.M.A.R.T. status: Verified
              USB Interface: 4

dmh8@Davids-Air-10 ~ % ioreg -p IOUSB -w0 -l
+-o Root  <class IORegistryEntry, id 0x100000100, retain 17>
  | {
  |   "IOKitBuildVersion" = "Darwin Kernel Version 21.3.0: Wed Jan  5 21:37:58 PST 2022; root:xnu-8019.80.24~20/RELEASE_X86_64"
  |   "OS Build Version" = "21D62"
  |   "OSKernelCPUSubtype" = 3
  |   "OSKernelCPUType" = 16777223
  |   "OSPrelinkKextCount" = 18
  |   "IORegistryPlanes" = {"IOPower"="IOPower","IOService"="IOService","IO80211Plane"="IO80211Plane","IOUSB"="IOUSB","CoreCapture"="CoreCapture","IOACPIPlane"="IOACPIPlane","IODeviceTree"="IODeviceTree"}
  |   "IOConsoleLocked" = No
  |   "IOConsoleUsers" = ({"kCGSSessionOnConsoleKey"=Yes,"kCGSSessionLoginwindowSafeLogin"=No,"kSCSecuritySessionID"=100003,"kCGSessionLongUserNameKey"="David M Howard","kCGSSessionUserIDKey"=501,"kCGSSessionSystemSafeBoot"=No,"kCGSSessionUserNameKey"="dmh8","kCGSSessionIDKey"=257,"kCGSSessionGroupIDKey"=20,"kCGSessionLoginDoneKey"=Yes,"kCGSSessionAuditIDKey"=100003})
  |   "IOKitDiagnostics" = {"Instance allocation"=17308552,"Container allocation"=7099433,"Pageable 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    |   "USB Product Name" = "AppleUSBXHCI Root Hub Simulation"
    |   "IOPowerManagement" = {"DevicePowerState"=0,"CurrentPowerState"=4,"CapabilityFlags"=32768,"MaxPowerState"=4,"DriverPowerState"=4}
    |   "IOUserClientClass" = "AppleUSBLegacyDeviceUserClient"
    |   "locationID" = 335544320
    |   "bDeviceSubClass" = 255
    |   "bcdUSB" = 256
    |   "non-removable" = "yes"
    |   "IOCFPlugInTypes" = {"9dc7b780-9ec0-11d4-a54f-000a27052861"="IOUSBFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/IOUSBLib.bundle"}
    |   "bDeviceProtocol" = 3
    |   "Device Speed" = 3
    |   "USB Vendor Name" = "Apple Inc."
    |   "idVendor" = 1452
    |   "IOClassNameOverride" = "IOUSBRootHubDevice"
    | }
    | 
    +-o BRCM20702 Hub@14300000  <class AppleUSBDevice, id 0x100000389, registered, matched, active, busy 0 (0 ms), retain 12>
    | | {
    | |   "sessionID" = 1794934537
    | |   "idProduct" = 17664
    | |   "iManufacturer" = 1
    | |   "bDeviceClass" = 9
    | |   "bMaxPacketSize0" = 8
    | |   "bcdDevice" = 256
    | |   "iProduct" = 2
    | |   "iSerialNumber" = 0
    | |   "bNumConfigurations" = 1
    | |   "Bus Power Available" = 250
    | |   "USB Address" = 3
    | |   "Built-In" = Yes
    | |   "locationID" = 338690048
    | |   "bDeviceSubClass" = 0
    | |   "bcdUSB" = 512
    | |   "USB Product Name" = "BRCM20702 Hub"
    | |   "PortNum" = 3
    | |   "non-removable" = "yes"
    | |   "AppleUSBAlternateServiceRegistryID" = 4294968199
    | |   "bDeviceProtocol" = 0
    | |   "IOCFPlugInTypes" = {"9dc7b780-9ec0-11d4-a54f-000a27052861"="IOUSBHostFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/IOUSBLib.bundle"}
    | |   "IOPowerManagement" = {"DevicePowerState"=2,"CurrentPowerState"=3,"CapabilityFlags"=65536,"MaxPowerState"=4,"DriverPowerState"=3}
    | |   "kUSBCurrentConfiguration" = 1
    | |   "Device Speed" = 1
    | |   "USB Vendor Name" = "Apple Inc."
    | |   "idVendor" = 2652
    | |   "IOGeneralInterest" = "IOCommand is not serializable"
    | |   "kUSBProductString" = "BRCM20702 Hub"
    | |   "kUSBVendorString" = "Apple Inc."
    | |   "IOClassNameOverride" = "IOUSBDevice"
    | | }
    | | 
    | +-o Bluetooth USB Host Controller@14330000  <class AppleUSBDevice, id 0x1000003af, registered, matched, active, busy 0 (1 ms), retain 18>
    |     {
    |       "sessionID" = 2136632231
    |       "idProduct" = 33423
    |       "iManufacturer" = 1
    |       "bDeviceClass" = 255
    |       "bMaxPacketSize0" = 64
    |       "bcdDevice" = 336
    |       "iProduct" = 2
    |       "iSerialNumber" = 0
    |       "bNumConfigurations" = 1
    |       "Bus Power Available" = 250
    |       "USB Address" = 6
    |       "Built-In" = Yes
    |       "locationID" = 338886656
    |       "bDeviceSubClass" = 1
    |       "bcdUSB" = 512
    |       "USB Product Name" = "Bluetooth USB Host Controller"
    |       "PortNum" = 3
    |       "non-removable" = "yes"
    |       "AppleUSBAlternateServiceRegistryID" = 4294968237
    |       "bDeviceProtocol" = 1
    |       "IOCFPlugInTypes" = {"9dc7b780-9ec0-11d4-a54f-000a27052861"="IOUSBHostFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/IOUSBLib.bundle"}
    |       "IOPowerManagement" = {"DevicePowerState"=2,"CurrentPowerState"=3,"CapabilityFlags"=65536,"MaxPowerState"=4,"DriverPowerState"=3}
    |       "kUSBCurrentConfiguration" = 1
    |       "Device Speed" = 1
    |       "USB Vendor Name" = "Apple Inc."
    |       "idVendor" = 1452
    |       "IOGeneralInterest" = "IOCommand is not serializable"
    |       "kUSBProductString" = "Bluetooth USB Host Controller"
    |       "kUSBVendorString" = "Apple Inc."
    |       "IOClassNameOverride" = "IOUSBDevice"
    |     }
    |     
    +-o Bela@14100000  <class AppleUSBDevice, id 0x1000013a1, registered, matched, active, busy 0 (4 ms), retain 28>
        {
          "sessionID" = 9474465803965
          "idProduct" = 260
          "iManufacturer" = 1
          "bDeviceClass" = 0
          "bMaxPacketSize0" = 64
          "bcdDevice" = 257
          "iProduct" = 2
          "iSerialNumber" = 3
          "bNumConfigurations" = 1
          "Bus Power Available" = 250
          "USB Address" = 18
          "Built-In" = No
          "locationID" = 336592896
          "bDeviceSubClass" = 0
          "bcdUSB" = 512
          "USB Product Name" = "Bela"
          "PortNum" = 1
          "non-removable" = "no"
          "kUSBSerialNumberString" = "__bela__"
          "bDeviceProtocol" = 0
          "AppleUSBAlternateServiceRegistryID" = 4294972319
          "IOCFPlugInTypes" = {"9dc7b780-9ec0-11d4-a54f-000a27052861"="IOUSBHostFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/IOUSBLib.bundle"}
          "IOPowerManagement" = {"DevicePowerState"=0,"CurrentPowerState"=3,"CapabilityFlags"=65536,"MaxPowerState"=4,"DriverPowerState"=3}
          "Device Speed" = 2
          "USB Vendor Name" = "Augmented Instruments Ltd"
          "idVendor" = 7531
          "kUSBCurrentConfiguration" = 1
          "IOGeneralInterest" = "IOCommand is not serializable"
          "kUSBProductString" = "Bela"
          "USB Serial Number" = "__bela__"
          "kUSBVendorString" = "Augmented Instruments Ltd"
          "IOClassNameOverride" = "IOUSBDevice"
        }

giuliomoro · Mar 2, 2022

right, so everything is recognised as expected, the issue is probably that the IDE doesn't have CPU time left to show up while the program is running at boot (or better, it will take much longer for it to be ready). See instructions here on how to regain control of the board in this situation:

https://learn.bela.io/using-bela/about-bela/troubleshooting-guide/#program-running-at-boot-and-board-not-showing-up

Ddavid · Mar 21, 2022

Hi again - same issue and I am spending too much time trying(!). I have had times when Bela has connected and thought all was OK but today I cannot get any success (am on my MacBook Air Monterey 12.2.1 which has been my only machine for Bela work). Have tried Firefox and Chrome and with bela.local/ I get the same result (and I confess I do not know what to check apart from the connection) as follows:

This site can’t be reached
bela.local’s server IP address could not be found.
Try:

Checking the connection
Checking the proxy, firewall and DNS configuration
ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED

Ddavid · Mar 21, 2022

Hi again. Should have mentioned - same error with Bela Mini.

giuliomoro · Mar 21, 2022

giuliomoro See instructions here on how to regain control of the board in this situation:

https://learn.bela.io/using-bela/about-bela/troubleshooting-guide/#program-running-at-boot-and-board-not-showing-up

Did you try this ? Was it successful? Did you manage to take back control of the board at some point? And then you lost it again?

Ddavid · Mar 21, 2022

Sorry should have indicated that it simply worked at some point without recourse to this. Since writing the post I found a pc I could try and it worked fine. It makes me suspicious of the Mac - I get the impression that PCs are more robust with Bela perhaps?